Interview with Harris Sharpe

Harris Sharpe was interviewed by Alexandra Sharpe on April 14, 2012

Harris Wade Sharpe was born in the Carr Community in North Carolina in 1935. She had two parents, Jessie and Will, and four older brothers, Jack, Bill, and James. Her family owned a tobacco farm in Carr. She worked on the farm, and at a dress store in Burlington, Belk-Leggett’s department store, banks in Durham and Mebane, the Post Office, and the contracts and grants department at the University of North Carolina. Mrs. Sharpe and her husband Victor Thomas Sharpe have three boys, Tommy, Bob, and Ed. Her husband passed away in January of 2000 after battling an undiagnosed form of lung disease for 27 years. She is also a breast cancer survivor and has been cancer free for five years. Mrs. Sharpe is currently 76 years old and lives in Efland, North Carolina, where she has lived since getting married.

On Being Southern

Oh me, prim and proper [sighs]. You dressed for the occasion, where so many times today I think we dress so different from what I would have dressed – not everybody, but some people. Even back then, I don’t think I can remember ever seeing my daddy go to church in overalls or blue jeans or whatever. He always had a suit. I’m not saying he’d have two or three, but he always had a suit and he wore that to church. Well people today are different because you and Taylor were taught your manners, and when you’re supposed to use them, and how you’re supposed to use them. Now those were taught as well when I was growing up, but just like now all parents didn’t teach them then, and all parents don’t teach them today. There’s a lot of changes, but there’s still a lot of things that haven’t changed.

Listen to the audio of Mrs. Sharpe’s response about expectations in the South.

On Household Work

Mrs. Sharpe was asked how she and her husband divided up the work of their household.

Well, because of the husband I had, I think we did real good. Papa was always willing to help and do his part. When we got home from work it wasn’t, “This is the household – you do it.” He always helped me. Even when the boys were little he would get up at night with them just as much as I did, when we had to get up with them. All I can say is I was very fortunate in that respect.

Listen to the audio of Mrs. Sharpe’s response about gender and work.

On Leisure

In discussing her hobbies, quilting and cooking, Mrs. Sharpe described:

As much as we want to help our children, sometimes our help is more of a hindrance than it is help. I think that night I learned for myself, “I can’t just be a soft pillow for him to fall on.” Sometimes you have to be a hard rock. That’s hard for the parent to accept and I know it’s hard for the child to accept. I think our theory for years is, “Momma’s going to be there,” and momma will be there. But sometimes not in the respect you wanted her to be, but that’s life. We can look at somebody else and say, “Oh my Lord, don’t they know what they’re doing to that child.” You just have to believe inside that if they don’t really know what they’re doing, somebody else is going to come along and show that child the right way.

Listen to the audio excerpt about Mrs. Sharpe’s leisure.

On Raising Children

As much as we want to help our children, sometimes our help is more of a hindrance than it is help. I think that night I learned for myself, “I can’t just be a soft pillow for him to fall on.” Sometimes you have to be a hard rock. That’s hard for the parent to accept and I know it’s hard for the child to accept. I think our theory for years is, “Momma’s going to be there,” and momma will be there. But sometimes not in the respect you wanted her to be, but that’s life. We can look at somebody else and say, “Oh my Lord don’t they know what they’re doing to that child.” You just have to believe inside that if they don’t really know what they’re doing, somebody else is going to come along and show that child the right way.

Listen to the audio about raising children.

On High School

When discussing her high school experiences, she remembered one experience which she really missed out on:

Well, I remember in high school I wanted to play basketball. Oh I wanted to play basketball so bad. Momma and daddy said no because of my knee that I had broken. I begged and I pleaded and finally they says, “Okay we’ll go see your doctor and see what he says.” He looked at me and he says, “No. You cannot play basketball. That’s too much of a risk of doing damage to that knee.” And he said, “Next time it won’t be as easy as it was the last time.” I thought to myself then, “Lord if it’s not as easy as it was the first time, I sure don’t want anything to happen.” I was a cheerleader, not like cheerleaders today. We didn’t throw each other up in the air and all of this. We just led, you know, sayings or little songs or whatever. And then when I wasn’t being a cheerleader, at most of the games I helped keep score.

Listen to the audio of Mrs. Sharpe’s response about her school experiences.

Interview with Brenda Tate

Brenda Tate was interviewed by Sentrell Allen on April 24, 2012.

Brenda Anne Rone was born on September 5, 1947 and raised in Roxboro, North Carolina. She is sixty-five years old. She is the oldest of six children, and her mother raised them as a single parent. Brenda’s  career path included being a house keeper, mill worker, dietician, and finally a dietary supervisor. She is currently disabled due to a severe spinal injury. Brenda decided to separate her life into three chapters, one being family and relationships, the second being her faith, and the third being her life now. She has two children, a daughter and a son, Sheila and Steve Allen, from a previous marriage, and has seven grand kids and two great grandchildren. She is currently married to Kenneth Tate.

On Childhood

When asked what she did for fun when she was a child, Brenda said:

Well, you take like grass, it growed tall, we would plait, like we was plaiting hair and we would get corn out of the garden, and we would just comb that maze, and plait that, we had that for a baby doll and we’d take towels and roll it, roll it and get it.

Listen to the audio of Brenda’s response about her childhood.

On Dating

Brenda described what dating was like when she grew up:

It wasn’t like it was now. We couldn’t date until we was sixteen, seventeen, but when we was sixteen we couldn’t go out; we had to date in the living room. Everybody had a living room; that’s where your boyfriend would come to see you. And mom had a certain time that he had to go – ten o’clock he had to go, whether he had a ride or not. He had to find him a ride; he couldn’t stay there. And we couldn’t go out when we were sixteen years old. And I think that’s better now, because after I growed up I see that when you’re younger you don’t think with your mind; you think with your feelings. And a lot of times your feelings will lead you the wrong way, down the wrong path, and you meet somebody that’s not good for you, instead of waiting for somebody that’s compatible for you. So as a girl dating I was real cautious, yeah.

Listen to the audio of Brenda’s response about dating.

On Work

Over the years Brenda had many jobs but the one she was most proud of was dietary:

I’m into food, so that’s why I worked in dietary. I made sure that the meals were presentable for the residents and made sure they got the diets that they were supposed to have. And I would always tell my staff that you don’t want to give nobody nothing you wouldn’t eat – ’cause you eat with your eyes, if it looks good you’d eat it. So that’s what I liked. I learned how to do everything in the kitchen and dietary. And I taught others how to do it. And I showed them the value of it and just act like that was your mother in the nursing home how would you feed her. You wouldn’t give her cold coffee; you’d make sure it’s hot! You wouldn’t give her cold food. So that’s what I liked doing.

Listen to the audio excerpt about Brenda’s work.

Reflecting Back

Brenda was asked what advice would she give to herself when she was younger.

To my younger self I would say to take it easy, not work so hard, that things come and go in life and you can’t have everything that you want. If you try to work for it, working two or three jobs, you work yourself to death and you wouldn’t be able to enjoy it. So that’s my lesson in life to myself.

Listen to the audio of Brenda’s advice to herself.

Best Experiences

One of my greatest experiences, let’s see…. One of my greatest experiences is well I bake cakes for people and when they come to pick it up they enjoy it so much, they tell other people about it and they call and want it and they’re like “Who made this? Who did it? Who made that?” and yeah, I love that.

Listen to the audio of Brenda’s response about her best experiences.

Interview with Janice Allman

Janice Allman was interviewed by Kristin Pinder on November 6, 2010.

Born in 1942, Janice Allman is now sixty-eight years old. She grew up with what she refers to as “Christian heritage,” in a pastor’s home. She was married to Pastor Max Allman until his death seven years ago. She has three children who provided her with fourteen grandchildren. When she is not spending time with family, Mrs. Allman volunteers at the Cancer Center, participates in church activities and manages her cake business.

On Marriage

Janice shares her views on marriage, and discusses her relationship with her late husband, Max.

I really think to have to a good marriage: first of all, it’s got to be grounded with the Lord first. And He’s got to be at the head of your house. And then the Bible says that the man is to be the head of the house. He is to be the spiritual leader. And I think that a man should take that responsibility, and that the wife should let him. Too often I think we tend to think it demeans us, if we can’t have our say. And I’m not saying you’re not supposed to discuss things with each other, I think that’s just common courtesy that you discuss and make plans together. And you make decisions together. But as far as one being over the other, I don’t think being head of the house is being. I didn’t consider him being over me, because he loved and adored me. And he told me that the morning that he died. He came in and said, “I just thank God for you.”

Listen to the audio of Janice’s response about her marriage.

On “The Little Things”

The selection below emphasizes the intertwinement of Janice’s idea of God and her daily routine.

I used to sew a lot for people. And I made most of my children’s clothes. And there would be times where I would get very perturbed at my sewing machine because the thread would break, or the bob[bin] would mess up. And I would literally, when I would sit down to sew, I would ask God, “Please, Lord, help this come out.” Maybe my cakes stuck because I didn’t say, “Help my cakes not stuck.” [Both laugh.] I do so much baking that whenever I take a pound cake out of the oven, I always say, “Lord, please let this come out and not stick,” and it does. I mean, you know [laughs]. Of course this was a new recipe and it may be that I just didn’t grease it quite enough at the bottom, but it’s you know. And a lot of people think, “Oh, that’s silly.” But no, I think God is interested in the little things just as good as He is the big things.

Listen to the audio of Janice’s response about the little things.

On Motherhood

Janice discusses what she considers the hardest part of motherhood.

When you see your children hurt. I don’t care how old they get, they’re still your kids. And you think, “Oh, once they get married, they’re gone.” They’re not. And they hurt, you hurt. It’s just like when they were little and they’re sick, you want to take that pain away, but you can’t. You’d like to be suffering for them when they’re hurting, earaches, whatever, whatever their sickness is.

Listen to the audio excerpt about motherhood.

On Giving Back

Janice volunteers regularly at the Cancer Center. The following conveys what inspires her as she works there.

Well I started that two years ago this past May. In fact, I worked six months when I found out I had cancer. A lot of people say, “Oh, I couldn’t stand to work there,” but I tell you what, it will improve your outlook on life, because you see people come through there every age. Old. Young. Newly married. Fathers expecting [their] first child, in there they find out they have cancer. But I don’t care how bad they might look, you rarely hear any negative response. They come in there and say, “Hey, how are you today?” [The cancer patients say,] “I’m good, I’m good,” but yet they look like they could hardly walk through the door.

Listen to the audio about giving back.

On Peace

After discovering she had breast cancer, Janice found herself at a turning point in her life. In this excerpt, she talks about how she felt.

Two years ago when I was told I had breast cancer, it hit me like, “Oh, my goodness. Cancer. The terrible word.” But just as quick, God me gave me peace. And the fact that I’ve got this in control, you know. And a lot of people go all to pieces but that’s not going to heal the cancer, and that’s not going to make it any worse to lose control or to go ballistic. And I know my son came to me, Chris said, “Mom, are you really that calm about this, or are you just putting a show on for us?” And said, “No, God’s given me peace.”

Listen to the audio of Janice’s response about peace.

Interview with Tammy Hayes-Hill

Tammy Hayes-Hill was 47 at the time of the interview, which was on November 8, 2010, and has lived in North Carolina her entire life.  Both her parents were farmers, so she learned the value of hard work at an early age.  She is part white, part African American, and part Native American, more specifically the Occoneechee tribe.  She has worked at Elon University for around 10 years, and if anyone ever has a problem needing solving in Residence Life, Tammy probably knows about it and is helping solve it in some way, shape or form.  She has one child, Brett, who is 22, and a husband, Gary, who works in Physical Plant in Elon as well.

Tammy on Family

Tammy’s brothers were among the first in NC to be integrated into primarily white schools as minorities.  In response to a question about whether she worried about them, Tammy said:

“I didn’t because I was so young.  Just hearing stories as I grew up, yes, I feel like there were some tense times, there were a lot of derogatory and very degrading words that I heard, that were thrown at my brothers and that were said to them.  And yes, as an ethnic person, even to this day you are in fear of your life all the time. And I know that sounds extreme, but you have to really understand, that even though civil rights are there, but it’s almost like you’re in fear that at any time they could be taken away from you.”

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Tammy on Farm Work

Since farming went back multiple generations on both sides of her family, she was always helping out one of her family members with a farm related task.

“And on the farm, it was always something to do.  If it wasn’t helping in the fields, which in the summer time was a big thing, it was the matter of taking care of whatever needed to be taken care of around the house, around the barn.  I will say at the stores we were always packing soda boxes, we would always have to wipe off counters, if someone came in and you needed to prepare an order of food, even though back then children should not have been doing that, you would chip in and do that.  If it was a time that we were out of school, going in the morning like at five and six o’clock and preparing onions and tea, and preparing the food to be served at the restaurant.  In the summer time you always had to work in tobacco. So we were at the barn, and the girls would stay at the barn to do the tying of the tobacco, and the men would go out and pull the tobacco, and that was an all-day process.  So it was never a time that you didn’t have things to do.”

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Tammy on Work

When asked about what her happiest moment at Elon was, Tammy replied:

“Oh, my happiest moment.  Gosh, there is so many.  I think it’s just the everyday feeling of being valued.  You know, happy moments are like when I see students graduating on graduation day and remembering them as a freshman, and then they have that senior swagger, that confidence and that you know that even though they’re leaving, that you had a special time with them.  And I’ll get a little misty, when I think about that.”

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Tammy on Leisure

When asked about what she did in her free time, Tammy replied:

“Well, I work a lot with my tribe, the Occoneechee tribe, we’re based out of Mebane, and we’re a non-profit.  So, a lot of work with them, there are meetings, there’s a lot of planning that we do.  With being a non-profit we’re always in that fund-raising mode because we survive off of grants and donations and that’s really a lot of time consuming work, but very fulfilling.  You can always find something to do.  Also, I’m part of the Alamance County Astronomy Club, and that is just a great outlet if you’re interested in astronomy, whether you have a total scientific knowledge, or you’re someone just interested in what’s going on in the sky and identifying stuff.  So, I really enjoy that as well as trying my best to connect with my family, working from 7:15 and not getting home till six o’clock, a lot of times I never see my neighbors, even though my in-laws live next door, you’re lucky to get a phone call in to them maybe two or three times a week, so there are a lot things where I catch up on as far as phone calls or going to see people, and being indigenous, I have a lot of relatives around that I really like to stay in touch with.”

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Tammy on Traveling

Tammy has never been on a plane, but she still wants to travel.

“No, need to do a lot.  I haven’t had those opportunities; I would love to go everywhere.  I have never flown, and not that that I’m afraid to because I would get on a plane in a heartbeat [laughs], so if there was a space shuttle, yes, I’m there.  Now, I’m not going to go on a cruise, I’ll tell you that.  Water and with me not swimming [AB: And all that recent news anyway.] Well, yes [laughs].  You know, not that I have anything against Spam, not a meal of choice.”

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Interview with Augusta Garrison

Augusta Garrison was interviewed by Allie Heatwole on April 26, 2010.

Ms. Augusta Garrison is an 82 year old woman who was born in Hamlet, North Carolina.  At the age of 18, she found out that she was adopted and that she had five sisters and one brother. She lived in Hamlet until she got married and moved to New Jersey so her husband could find work.  She worked as a nursing assistant before getting married and then raised five children.  After living in New Jersey for over 21 years, Ms. Garrison returned to her childhood home in Hamlet to take care of her mother.  She stayed in that house after her mother’s passing and still lives there today. 

On Living in New Jersey

Ms. Garrison was describing the night her husband wanted to show her the progress on the plant he was working on.  She described being disinterested in the plant and generally upset about living in the north:

Anyway, we started over there, got over there near Shiloh and I bust out, I said, “I don’t want to go see no plant, I’m going back to Hamlet—where people talk to you!” Because I didn’t even have him to talk to, and you can’t talk to a baby.  You can talk to them but…you know?  I had gotten very very upset living there.  And he didn’t know it, I never let him know it.  And he turned the car around, we never did get to see the plant.   

Listen to the audio of Augusta’s response about her experience in New Jersey.

On Men’s and Women’s Work

Men made more and everybody knew that.  I mean, this was standard knowledge.  Everybody knew men made more than women, doing the same thing…could do the same things.  And now women have, I think in my opinion, have worked theyselves into a corner.  They can do the work men do, and they should get the pay men get, but the more they know how to do, the more they gonna start to do and the men’s gonna have to sit back home.  And I don’t think God created this that way; I think He created women to take care of His children when He put them on Earth. 

Listen to the audio of Augusta’s response about wages.

On How Women’s Lives Have Changed

A woman got up, and she did a job all day in the morning to wash the clothes and did the house work and all to go visiting’ in the afternoon.  And you know your neighbors.  Now, I’m not talking about doing snobby things, like playing’ bridge everyday and all that, but just interacting with other people.  And you know their families, their families know your families and it’s like you belong to a community of people that care about you.  Now, women work, they have to…They have to work now!  Two people have got to have a job now, there’s no getting around it. Because things are so high and so nobody has time to communicate or even sit down and visit.

Listen to the audio excerpt about Augusta’s description of how women’s lives have changed.

On Differences

When asked about differences in regions and races, Ms. Garrison said:

There is a difference in the way that people are made, in the way they are, and in the way they have been raised, and in the work of the south…but you still love everybody because God made them all. Like I said, they all want to be up there. The ones believe in Jesus Christ, they going’ to be right there. So if you can’t get along with them here what you gonna do up there? You gonna say, “No, I’m going’ down there?” Uh-uh. No. Uh-uh.

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Moving from the South to the North

Ms. Garrison was asked why she made the move from North Carolina, where she grew up and met her husband, to New Jersey, where he husband was raised. 

We couldn’t find any work down there.  He was a Yankee.  It’s the truth.  In 1948 the Civil War was still going on down here.  And even one of the places he put in an application for told him that.  He said, “If I hired you I’d have to fire all the rest I’ve got.”  Because he said, “Northerners know how to work,” and says, “we gotta have so many blacks and blacks don’t know how to work.  They’re slow, they don’t have education.”  He says, “I couldn’t hire you, I’d have to fire everybody else.” 

And he went one place, he put an application in and put it down, “New Jersey” where he lived and the man took the paper and tore it up and says, “Get out of here you damn Yankee!” And Ed started to argue with him, you know.  And he took him out physically and put him out the door, on the street.  Then a cop standing outside there, a patrol cop, and Ed says, “You see what he did?!” And the cop told him to just “move along fella, just move along.”

Listen to the audio of Augusta’s response about why she made the move from the South to the North.

Interview with Mary Ann Inabnit

Mary Ann Inabnit was interviewed by Meaghan Harkins on Arpil 19, 2010

Mary Ann was born in South Carolina but moved to North Carolina to teach. She met her husband in North Carolina and after their marriage they went on to have six children. She graduated from Winthrop College with a teaching certificate and taught typing and shorthand to high school students for five years. She now works at Belk Library at Elon University with the periodicals. She loves spending time with her family, visiting friends, and helping her church. Mary Ann Inabnit was eighty years old when this interview took place.

On Family

Mary Ann idolized her brothers and loved to be with them. Here she describes playing with her brothers:

Very good. Fun. They would let me play football with them on Sunday afternoon in our pasture. A lot of their friends would come to play and they would let me center the ball. You know what that is, centering the ball? Then I would have to get out but I was used so that was good. I had fun doing that. And often they would want to go away to play and they would let me sit on the front door step and let me hold their little knife or their little buckeye.

Listen to the audio of Mary Ann describes playing with her brothers.

On Education

Mary believes that education is a very important thing in everyone’s life and talks about her own school experience:

The school I went to when I was very young was the first grade through the fourth grade in one room. This was a small country school called Smith School and the other grade was fifth through seventh. I had a wonderful teacher and she wore high heeled shoes and I just thought that was the most wonderful thing. I would come home from school and get my mother’s high heeled shoes and prance around. I had a good experience in grammar school and from that I went to high school at Anderson, the city of Anderson and had good time at that time. We only had eleven grades. So I went off to college when I was sixteen and graduated when I was 20.

Listen to the audio of Mary Ann’s response about her schooling.

On Where You Live

Mary enjoys living in North Carolina and she explains why she feels that way:

It has made my life very enjoyable. Happiness is from within. So I think you could, if you chose, live anywhere if you were going to be happy you could be happy. Do you follow me? You don’t have to be at a certain place. But North Carolina is an easy place to live and we’ve been fortunate to have good schools, churches that we’ve enjoyed and appreciated. And friends that we’ve appreciated. Elon has been very meaningful to us.

Listen to the audio excerpt about Mary Ann’s experience of living in North Carolina.

On Women Today

When asked if she had any advice for young women today, this is what she responded with

I want people, young people to be true to themselves and to aspire to make their life worthwhile. Giving up themselves to others in various ways. You can do that in numerous ways but I think that’s something that you, Meaghan would aspire to do. Find a position or job, it doesn’t have to be a great job but do the best you can with it and help others as much as you can. Does that make sense?

Listen to the audio about what should be important to young women today.

On the War

Mary had two older brothers who both fought in World War II. This is her description of what she did the day Pearl Harbor happened.

On that day of Pearl Harbor it was Sunday. My mother and I been to church and to Sunday school and had come home. My daddy’s brother, from Anderson, we lived in the country about seven miles from the city of Anderson, South Carolina. My uncle and his wife came to our house and picked my mother and me up. Both of the boys were at Clemson. Both of my brothers and we went up to Clemson to see them on that day. I had never ever seen a group of boys. None of them were smiling. It was a military school, Clemson was at that time. Of course, they knew where they were going. And my brother Davey graduated in May and he went into the army in June. Then my other brother was a sophomore at Clemson at that time and he went that summer and had to come back to Clemson after the war and graduate. But it was a sad day, difficult day. But I was glad now we got to go see them that day.

Listen to the audio of Mary Ann’s response about the day of Pearl Harbor.

Interview with Dot Lindley

Dot Lindley was interviewed by Alaina Artin on November 6, 2007 and November 8, 2007.

Dot Lindley was born in 1937 in Burlington, NC, and still lives there with her husband Jack. She was an only child and enjoyed volunteering her time with community groups back then and even today. She married into a larger family and has three children, and 11 grandchildren. Her faith is very important to her and she has passed these values onto her children. She used to work in the Burlington Textile Mill as a secretary. Dot now volunteers at the Arts Council in Greensboro and is a member of a garden club. She is a member of the Elon Board of Visitors and has created a scholarship for Elon students with her husband. She still visits with high school friends and likes to shop, entertain, travel and spend time with her family.

Dot’s thoughts on her husband

Dot met her husband, Jack, in high school.  As Dot said in the interview:

He had graduated from Williams High School, and he was starting to Carolina. And I was a sophomore, going into my sophomore year, and he invited me to go to a Carolina football game. But I had known him just from seeing him at Williams. He was a senior when I was a freshman. And we had just entered Williams when it was built. So he was the first senior class and I was the first class to go all the way through.

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Dot’s thoughts on Burlington, NC

Dot has seen the changes taking place in her community over the years.  Here is what she noticed: 

I think about how I used to just walk about anywhere. I walked home from school; I would walk from school through town home. You just can’t do that anymore or let your children do that anymore and feel like they’re safe. Not only the traffic but the other big problems that are out there.

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Dot’s thoughts on being a grandmother

Dot enjoys being a grandmother and spending time with her 11 grandchildren.  She said:

You just have the first grandchild, and you think, if you have another one how can you love that one as much as the first one? And then you end up with 11 and you just love them all. And the love just grows and it’s there for everybody. It’s easier being a grandmother. And you pray for these kids, and you care for these kids and you just pray that nothing ever happens. We’ve been very lucky. Their parents have done a great job of keeping them in line and educating them. Everybody is well, and bright and just good kids.

Listen to the audio excerpt about Dot’s grandchildren.

Dot’s thoughts on her childhood

Dot remembers growing up in North Carolina after the Depression and that life was different than it is today.  She stated: 

I remember once downtown, somebody had brought a big truck or motor-type thing, and for show, it had a whale in it. You could pay them probably 20 cents, and go in this big truck thing and see the whale. And that doesn’t happen much anymore, does it? What I’m telling you is there was not a lot going on in Burlington.

Listen to the audio about Dot’s childhood memory.

Dot’s thoughts on spending time with family

Dot loves her family and being together with them.  As Dot described:

We go to Hyco and we have a Fourth of July parade with all the boats. And it is so pretty, just so pretty. Most of boats are decorated and most everybody has on their red, white and blue. And the water’s always blue and pretty and the sky’s usually pretty, so it’s a pretty sight, kind of an unforgettable sight; you keep it in the back of your mind.

Listen to the audio of Dot’s response about her family.